Sneak Peek at New Cobra ZL Driver
August 26th, 2009
Here is a sneak peek at the New Cobra ZL driver which ships on 11/1. It is currently being tested by Cobra’s Tour staff.
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August 26th, 2009
Here is a sneak peek at the New Cobra ZL driver which ships on 11/1. It is currently being tested by Cobra’s Tour staff.
Entry Filed under: News
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Donovan Wong wrote on 2010-03-02 20:57:56
Hi,
Firstly, congratulation to Cobra for the great stuff that has been coming in the last few years.
I have been using the Speed LD for the past 2 years (in addition to the pro-baffler DWS which I love it, have the 20 and 23 degree hybrids) and replaced the stock shaft with Voodoo VS6.
I am contemplating to replace the driver with the ZL or the S2. My swing speed is around 100mph and plays to a handicap of USGA 6.5.
Could you elaborate on the differences between the two drivers, in terms playability, spin rates and distance wise.
Thank you very much.
Cheers
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-03-03 11:45:22
Donovan,
Both the ZL and Cobra S2 Drivers are geared towards a wide range of handicaps and both are being played on Tour. (Note that the S2 Offset Driver is designed for a mid to high handicapper with its offset, maximum draw-bias design.)
Both the Cobra S2 and ZL drivers are forgiving, but by utilizing lightweight composite materials in the ZL we are able to offer slightly more forgiveness. The launch angle of the ZL is about 1 degree on average higher than the S2. Spin is similar between the two drivers….
The best way to see the differences and figure out which is best for you is to demo them. Here’s a link to find a Cobra retailer near you: http://www.cobragolf.com/locator.aspx.
Hope that helps.
Chip wrote on 2010-03-03 18:47:37
I am looking into the ZL driver,Im coming from a taylor made tour,10 deg,and reg flex shaft.I am a nine handicap and was just wondering if a stiff shaft would work for me? Can you explain your stiff vs reg shaft? Thanks
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-03-09 14:34:26
Chip-
We always recommend you visit a fitter or at least demo different clubs and shafts when you are shopping for a new driver. The flex of shaft you use varies and is best recommended in-person by a fitter. Too many variables like swing tempo and swing speed affect the type of shaft that is best for you. Here’s a link to find a Cobra retailer: http://www.cobragolf.com/locator.aspx. Select “Custom Fitting” to find a fitter near you.
Morgan Mohr wrote on 2010-02-23 09:23:56
I have been playing Cobra Drivers for past two or three seasons…switching from Taylormade R7 to HS9 in 2007. I put the ZL in my bag in January 2010. I play a 9.5 with a stiff VooDoo Aldila shaft. I set the driver up on neutral. although I did experiment with other settings first. I still can work the driver either fade or draw, so I am happy with the neutral setting.
I play the Golf Club at Cinco Ranch in Katy, Texas almost weekly. The first hole, plays 410 yards from the tips…probably about 375 if you cut the corner and bomb it over the trees of this dogleg left.
On Saturday, I decided to really smooth one and go straight at the green….I was 20 yards off the front edge…
I again did the same on hole #2 and was in front of the green again….hole #4, par five….on in 2. I love this driver! The best one I have ever owned and it is almost impossible to hit bad.
Thank you Cobra Engineers!
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-03-03 11:52:01
Thanks for sharing that with us Morgan. We really love hearing stories like that. Keep striping ‘em!
Dave wrote on 2010-02-19 19:54:50
I see you offer the UST Axivcore Red shaft as a custom shaft option. What about the UST Axivcore Green shaft? If not, why dont you carry it, is it not a good shaft? If you do, the green shaft has a heavier tip section and was wondering how much that would affect swingweight and also where the green shaft would be compared to the red shaft on spin and trajectory. LOVE the custom shaft chart by the way, very, very helpful. Thanks.
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-02-23 10:09:14
Dave,
The UST Axivcore Green is a fine shaft and not offered simply because there has not been much demand for it yet. We review that demand about every six months and make changes to our custom shaft matrix accordingly. If and when there is more demand for it, we will add it to the Axivcore Black, Blue and Red that we already carry.
As far as the differences between the Axivcore Red and the Green, here is what our friends at UST said: “The Green will launch a little bit lower than the Red in terms of trajectory and the spin should tend to be a little lower than the Red as well. However this is somewhat dependent on the player’s swing, so it is difficult to say for certain. The Axivcore Red is a counter balanced shaft while the Green is not. It is difficult to say how much the swingweight will change without knowing the head weight or shaft length but the swingweight of a club with the Axivcore Green will generally tend to be higher (heavier) than the Axivcore Red with the same setup.”
Hope that helps.
bryan wrote on 2010-02-11 04:07:23
I would like to get the Cobra ZL driver, but I was thinking of getting it cut down to 44.5 or 44. I’ve read here that I can not have the club cut down this short due to the swingweight. How heavy of a shaft would I have to have installed to maintain a swingweight of D2-D4? Also would Installing a heavier shaft decrease the feel of the club head? Do the custom shafts come in 46″ as a standard? Does trimming the shaft change it’s playing charactoristics?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-03-03 11:50:16
Bryan,
We can go below 45″ but in that case we cannot guarantee the swingweight. Therefore the club can not be returned if it is cut below 45″. If you still want to go with that length, we will use a 10g weight and try to get the swingweight up. There are a few shafts that may reach D3 at 44.5″ – the Aldila DVS 80, VS Proto, Grafalloy Pro Launch Platinum, Mitsubishi Diamana Blue Board / White Board, Javln M8 and UST V2 65-75-85. A heavier shaft will rarely decrease feel and often times can increase feel depending on the shaft type. But trimming the shaft does change playing characteristics. It will generally stiffen the tip section resulting in a lower launch and lower spin. It can also cause a right miss to go further right. If the shaft is tip trimmed too much it can have the opposite effect on ball flight.
And finally, yes, unless specified all shafts used in the ZL or S2 will be built to 46″.
NIck wrote on 2010-02-05 10:16:30
Hi
please can you let me know what the catalogue shaft options are for the ZL driver in the UK. I have just bought a ZL but would like a second shaft to switch between? Cannot seem to get an answer here?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-02-16 16:36:09
Nick,
A list of custom shafts for the UK can be found here:
http://media.titleist.com/images/cobragolf/products/drivers/pdfs/EUCustomShafts.pdf
Dennis O'Malley wrote on 2010-02-04 09:29:46
I currently use the Speed Pro S in 9.5 loft. What is the face angle on this?
Also, the Matrix Ozik XCon-5 shaft seems to have the specs I’m looking for. What are the recommended swing speeds for stiff and regular flexes played at 45″ lenth?
Thanks.
Dennis
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-03-09 12:13:23
The Speed Pro S is 1 degree open.
It’s hard to recommend a shaft flex only using swing speeds. The tempo of a swing can also affect the ideal type of flex. It’s always best to get custom fit especially if you aren’t sure what flex you would require. In general, if you have a medium swing tempo your ball speed would range from 112-135 mph to fit into a regular flex shaft and 135-157 to fit into a stiff flex. These are only generalizations though – so getting fit is the best answer.
Nick wrote on 2010-02-01 13:25:48
I have just purchased a ZL Driver, is it possible to order replacement shafts? Can you buy the sleeve seperatley so I can custom fit with a ACCRA??? Not worried about warranty issues.
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Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-02-12 13:25:28
Yes, you can purchase replacement shafts through a Cobra retailer. We’ll install the shaft with the correct hosel sleeve. Sorry Nick, we don’t sell the hosel sleeve separately.
Jody Tatham wrote on 2010-02-01 04:50:47
what is the difference between the new s2-driver and the new zl-driver?
Scott wrote on 2010-02-01 17:14:43
also please compare these two drivers to the LV4 driver that is no longer sold. All advertisements say MAX DISTANCE AND FORGIVENESS. Which driver and why….please
Scott wrote on 2010-01-30 17:18:36
Is it possibe to buy just the torque wrench for the ZL?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-02-12 13:21:17
Yes, you can purchase a torque wrench through a Cobra retailer.
Mike wrote on 2010-01-30 04:04:06
Got my Zero Limit yesterday and it looks good.
But the driver is very heavy 45 inch GD YSQ 75 and 10 gram screw and the shaft plays like it wasn´t tipped.
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-02-12 13:32:56
With that shaft at that length the swingweight should be D3 or D4. We don’t tip shafts – unless you specify in the custom order.
Jim wrote on 2010-01-27 20:07:26
I am interested in the spin rates comparing the new ZL driver with the L5V. A fitter told me the spin rates are higher withe the ZL. Can anyone shed any light on this.
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-02-12 13:36:12
Yes, the spin rate will be higher with the ZL vs. L5V at the same loft.
Scott B wrote on 2010-01-27 17:11:47
I have picked up a used ZL and am contemplating getting a new shaft for it. Will it be made to my specs in terms of length. I am looking at the Prolaunch Platinum in Regular and would like it to play to 44inches.
Thanks,
Scott
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-02-12 12:02:16
Scott,
We do carry the ProLaunch Platinum shaft as a custom option. The length can be made to whatever length you like. We supply the appropriate swingweight screw to try and maintain the D4 swignweight of the stock driver. However by taking the shaft down to 44″, we may not be able to get to D4. The custom department would do the best it could, but you might want to discuss it with your Cobra retailer when you get closer to making the purchase so they can contact Cobra and make sure everyone is on the same page.
Ben wrote on 2010-01-26 19:16:27
Hi Cobra,
Im thinking of getting a new shaft for my Cobra ZL. Aldila DVS 60 63g stiff. I find the stock shaft to be too whippy. Since the stock shaft has 4.5 torque. You think im going the right direction with the aldila dvs 60 since it has 3.3 torque on a 63g stiff? Im after more control on my swing and won’t have to worry giving my swing abit more. Also do i need a different weight on the head if i do switch to this shaft?
Thanks
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-03-09 12:36:32
Ben-
There are so many variables in finding the right shaft and to fully understand what you are looking for, we would need more information. Ideally, we recommend visiting a custom fitter to find the right shaft for you.
If you’d like to see a comparison of different shafts performance and where the ZL driver stock shaft falls in the mix, click on this link: http://www.cobragolf.com/drivers/shafts/default.asp. The chart will show you how to get more/less launch or more/less spin from your shaft.
If you do order a different shaft for your ZL through a Cobra retailer, we will automatically send the correct weight that goes into your ZL driver head.
Sorry, we’re not able to pinpoint the correct shaft for you – but there are just too many variables and not enough information to fit online – which is why visiting a fitter would be very beneficial for you.
Rob Millburn wrote on 2010-01-26 03:59:10
I’ve hit the SZ 460, 9*, with Fujikura Vista Tour 60, Stiff flex for years. I love the ball flight, mid trajectory, no balooning. What would be the ZL equivalent head/shaft combo to my SZ460.
Thanks,
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-02-17 08:32:26
ADDENDUM: After speaking with one of our fitters here, he agreed that a professional fitting is the only true way to know what shaft would work best for you. However, he said you might want to start here:
“A good club recommendation would be a 9.5 S2 or ZL with the Aldila VooDoo SVS6 (not the stock shaft) or the Fujikura Motore’ Speeder 60 S.”
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-02-12 11:42:23
Rob,
There are probably many different ZL/shaft combinations that would work for you. Rather than try and guess at them, we recommend you try to get to a demo event to demo some different shafts. Or better yet, get professionally fit. You won’t be sorry!
Warren Bullock wrote on 2010-01-23 20:34:18
Planning on ordering the ZL with the Aldila Voodoo SV6 shaft as an upgrade. It will be 45.25 in length. I’m assuming that it will have the 10g weight at this length. What will the final swing weight be with this set-up? I have tested the stock voodoo vs the SV6 and feel confident in my fitting. How would the tip stiffness compare on these two ?
Warren Bullock
Ontario, Canada
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-01-26 14:34:41
45.25″ Aldila VooDoo would have the following swingweights:
2gm: D1.5
6gm: D3.5
10gm: D5.5
The stock VooDoo shaft has a higher balance point than the Aldila SV6. It also has a softer tip.
Jack wrote on 2010-01-21 10:18:28
Just got my ZL Driver as a late Xmas present.
Where can I order or get the replaceable weights?
Thanks.
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-01-21 10:21:55
Any authorized Cobra dealer can order the swing weight kit for you. Find your nearest dealer here:
http://www.cobragolf.com/locator.aspx
Enjoy your new ZL!
Michael Pitre wrote on 2010-01-18 10:33:44
I was under the impression that a closed face would decrease the loft as opposed to increasing loft. Is it the squaring up of the closed club face at address that adds dynamic loft. Or am I thinking of actual loft as opposed to dynamic loft.
Michael
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-01-18 12:15:20
It gets a bit confusing when talking about dynamic and actual loft so we will try to keep it simple. At address, a ZL driver in the “closed” setting sits flat on the ground, has a closed face angle, and will have a slightly decreased loft. If you take that driver in the “closed” setting and square it up, you will essentially be adding loft back to the club (and will also negate the effect of the closed face angle). Hope that helps.
Zeno wrote on 2010-01-16 14:49:14
I purchased a zl 10.5 lite voodoo shaft (56 grams) last week. It hits great, however it is extremely head heavy (d9 on my swingweight scale) which is usually fairly accurate. Is this the norm? Is there any way to bring the swingweight down without shortning the shaft. If i have to shorten the shaft, how much to get it to d4. Thanks, Zeno
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-01-18 15:01:31
Zeno,
Was your ZL a custom order? All our stock ZL drivers have a swingweight of D4, so if it’s really D9 that definitely doesn’t sound right. Can you confirm the weight at your local pro shop? If it turns out it really is D9 and there were no custom modifications, I would encourage you to contact our customer care department and let them know the situation. 800-833-3450
PS. Have a look at the swing weight screw in your ZL. If you look closely, you will see a number on it. If it is stock, it should be a 6 gram weight. We do make a 2 gram and 10 gram weight as well so swapping out the swing weight screw might be a solution.
Steve Hughes Sr. wrote on 2010-01-16 05:52:54
I have used Cobra drivers, other than one time I did use a Mizzuno 8 degree, since learning the game at 34 years old. I am now 57,. A friend of mine was at the range the other day hitting this sweet sounding club and I noticed he was a little longer than normal. Being curious, and knowing almost all the regulars games at the course,as I work there as the grounds superintendant assistant. I walked and asked, “hey Jimmy, what ya got there?”. He then handed me the club and said hit it. I did and gotta tell ya, Cobra has done it again. Yep, I’m now the proud owner of the new ZL 9.5 Driver. I’m driving the ball around 280 yards of carry. My swing speed was measured with driver at about 102 to 106 mph. I played the Mizzunno for awhile, but came back to Cobra when the FSpeed came out. Cobra has always been my club of choice as far as Driver and fairway woods. I still use the old Cobra Steel head 3 wood I’ve had for years. Thanks Cobra, the only problem I have is that you’re costing me money, kinda like one of my ex-wives. This is good though. One question, is there a particular ball that plays better off the club than others? Thanks
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-01-18 12:02:12
That’s great to hear Steve, thanks for sharing. We always appreciate “ah ha!” moments when it comes to our equipment.
As for your ball question, there really is no “best ball” for any given driver. Many companies make many different balls, all with different playing characteristics and qualities to match a wide variety of swings and ball speeds. Your best ball can be different from other people’s best ball. We are a little biased but of course we think our sister companies – Titleist and Pinnacle – make the best balls out there. But if possible, go get a professional ball fitting to try a bunch out and see what gives you the best results.
Tim wrote on 2010-01-14 13:44:24
I am looking forward to trying the ZL. But I was wondering if the shaft adjustment technology is like turning the shaft in your hand before taking you grip or is there something all together different going on.
Thanks
Tim
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-01-18 11:23:16
Actually Tim, there is something different going on. Turning the driver in your hands causes a couple problems. First, there is no way to control the angle that you are turning your club. So one time it may be angled 1 degree, another time it could be angled 4 degrees. These are subtle increments but they have a large impact so if the angle is different every time, that just introduces another point of inconsistency and potential problems.
The other thing about turning the driver is that the sole no longer sits flat on the ground when you sole the club. That turf interaction can cause twisting when the club hits the ground during a swing.
Adjustable Flight Technology changes the position of the head to allow the sole to sit flat on the ground while creating the same, predictable face angle every time.
Richard Nester wrote on 2010-01-31 20:54:59
Your answer doesn’t make sense to me. Don’t get me wrong, I am a Cobra fan. Had a Cobra F Speed for 4 years, just bought my ZL, and used it the first time. The improvement to my carry distance was obvious and immediate and 30-50 yards, and my control was better, and in short order, I loved the club. However, after about 20 drives, all with a tendency to be left, I decided to open the club face using the AFT adjustment. Not having experimented with it before, I was surprised to find that approximately 1/3 turn of the shaft was the only option. That doesn’t compute when I am looking for a consistent only 2-3 degrees of “openness.” If we are just rotating the shaft, and then rotating the whole club back to have the sole lay flat, we have done nothing that we couldn’t have done by simply changing our grip position ever so slightly, and, by rotating the shaft 1/3 turn, we are taking away the grip logo which can be used as a position reference. What am I missing? And by the way, I went back to my local Golfsmith, and they had a lot of trouble coming up with an answer, and when they did, it didn’t make sense, and was mechanically impossible.
Anxiously awaiting your reply.
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-03-09 14:15:48
Richard-
That’s great! 30-50 yards is a major increase in distance.
To answer your question, the missing piece to understanding how Adjustable Flight Technology works is the design of the hosel. The 120° rotation of the shaft alters the angle at which the hosel enters the clubhead – which in turn alters the face angle. This subtle, hidden change is what causes the three settings of AFT to be possible all while keeping the sole flat on the ground.
Mike wrote on 2010-01-13 19:27:19
I have a number of .335 diameter shafts that I was hoping to use in my ZL. Similar to custom orders, can I have my local Cobra retailer send my existing shafts in to have the hosel sleeve installed so they can be used in my ZL? Thanks.
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-01-15 10:15:42
Sorry Mike – due to warranty issues, our repair department can not accommodate reshaft requests outside our standard catalog of shaft options.
Norm wrote on 2010-01-12 14:37:00
Tried your 10.5 ZL driver at a local dealer with a launch monitor, I was getting a launch angle that averaged of 13.6 degrees with a spin rate average around 3800 (this was using my preffered Taylor Made TP Black golfball). I asked what a 9.5 would do and they didn’t have one to try. Trying to consult options with my Dealer he couldn’t recommend an alternate shaft that would get my numbers lower but rather was trying to recommended a different driver all together. Can you help me out with a recomondation for a different shaft option that potentially would lower my launch angle and spin rates? And do you have a fitting center in Washington State where these shafts are available for tryout?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-03-03 11:47:35
Norm,
Have you demoed the Cobra S2 driver? We would definitely recommend you try both the ZL and S2 Cobra in stock stiff in 9.5. This will take spin off and launch won’t go below optimum levels. Anything we offer that is more tip stiff will likely help you – in our Fitting Bags, the Fujikura Motore F1 or Mitsubishi Javln M7 would be good choices.
You should be able to find local fitters and retailers that have our Fitting Bags with our locator: http://www.cobragolf.com/locator.aspx . Call around and see who has the shafts for you to try. If you get stuck, you can call our Customer Service and they will be able to help you. 800-833-3450
Chuck Brown wrote on 2010-01-12 09:04:46
Hi , Does the adjustment tool for the L5V also work for the ZL ? I’m looking at a used ZL but it has no tool with it . Thanks
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-01-12 16:50:22
Yes, they use the exact same adjustment tool.
Chuck Brown wrote on 2010-01-12 09:00:26
Just wondered if the adjustment tool for the L5V also works on the ZL ? I have a chance to buy a ZL used , but it has no tool with it . Thanks
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-02-12 13:39:37
Yes, the torque wrench is the same.
Phil Green wrote on 2009-12-24 10:53:57
Hi If . Can I purchase another shaft from Cobra for my zl? If I purchase the Diamana Blue 63 shaft for my zl at 45.5 what head-weight screw would you recomend? Many
thanks.
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-01-06 10:46:53
You can select from a large range of custom shafts for your ZL and all can be purchased through any Cobra dealer. The list can be found here:
http://www.cobragolf.com/drivers/shafts/default.asp
For a Diamana Blue 63 shaft at 45 1/2″, adding a 2gm weight would make the club D3, a 6gm weight would make it D5 and a 10gm weight would make it D7. We would recommend the 6gm weight to try and maintain the the D4 stock swingweight of the ZL.
mark wrote on 2009-12-21 08:54:26
Cobra, can I order new shafts for the ZL online? I don’t want to go through a shop? Are there many choices yet for this driver.
PS I hit the ball high with a 9.5 degree and a stiff Voodoo shaft. It is set in the neutral position. Will the Open position hit the ball lower or higher generally. Or the closed position? What should it do?
Mark
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-12-21 10:11:00
Mark,
The shafts that are available for the ZL driver can be found here:
http://www.cobragolf.com/drivers/shafts/default.asp
Unfortunately, we do not sell Cobra products directly to consumers, so you will need to go through a third party. However, any of the major golf retailers can sell you our products through their websites, including custom shafts.
As you allude to above, yes, when the face angle is changed, the loft is affected. When the face is changed to a more closed setting, the dynamic loft of the club is increased and when the face is changed to a more open setting, the dynamic loft is reduced. For example, a 9.5º ZL in the “C” AFT (Adjustable Flight Technology) position is closer to 10 degrees, while the same 9.5 in the “O” AFT position is closer to 9 degrees.
As for shaft recommendations, we really can’t offer any advice without seeing your swing. You can certainly get a Voodoo 9.5º X flex if you hit that shaft well, and it is available through our custom department without any upcharge. But as always, we recommend you try to demo the club or get professionally fit before you buy.That is the only way to ensure you are getting the right club for your game.
Michael Pitre wrote on 2010-01-18 09:40:49
I just previously sent an e-mail for the loft answer and forgot to mention I have been a Cobra owner and fan for years. I am presently hitting the Cobra LD 10.5 (2007 model) and love it. I was contemplating going to the new ZL 9.5 that’s why I was interested in the answer to the e-mail Mark on 12-21-09. I also have a question about my LD. Is there any way to make it quieter at impact.
Thanks, Michael
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-03-09 14:24:39
Michael,
If you’re considering the ZL Driver (or any driver), we always recommend either getting fit or demoing it – either at a retailer or at a demo day. The sound of the Speed LD cannot be changed – but if you do get a chance to demo the ZL or even the new Cobra S2 Drivers, you’ll notice a very pleasing sound.
Mike wrote on 2009-12-20 13:50:09
JB was wearing a black Cobra hat (flex fit I believe) when he teamed with Kenny Perry. Where can I get that hat right now?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-12-21 10:36:27
JB was wearing the Performance Mesh Fitted cap:
http://www.cobragolf.com/hats/details.asp?id=41
To find your nearest Cobra dealer where you can get that cap, you can use our Dealer Locator:
http://www.cobragolf.com/locator.aspx
You might want to call ahead though to make sure they have the cap in stock. If they don’t, they can order it for you.
Barrie Lees wrote on 2009-12-17 13:59:11
I have had and enjoy for 6 years a Cobra 9 degree/5000 inertia/LD offset with an Aldila Rg/50 kg/low kick/Torque 4,5. the impact noise is of concern
I am 69 years of age, handicap 6
I am interested in the new ZL Driver
What is the recommended face setting and shaft spec that I should consider
Thanks
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-12-17 14:20:54
Barrie,
Thank you for being a long time Cobra loyalist. Unfortunately, it really is not possible for us to make an informed recommendation based on the specs of your old driver. We strongly urge you to go get fit to make sure you are paired with the best driver for your game.
However, based on the specs of your last driver, we would suggest that when you go get fit, you start with a Cobra ZL 9.5 regular in the “Neutral” setting. From there, you can determine if the stock shaft is right for your swing or whether you might want to change the face angle, depending on your ball flight. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
Francesco wrote on 2009-12-16 10:22:04
I’m interested in buying the new ZL Driver, 9.5 loft, but I have some doubts concerning shaft.
I’m actually playing a Mizuno MP 600 driver, 9.5 loft, Fujikura E150 stiff shaft.
As for 3 wood I have a Titleist 909F3, Titleist Voodoo Fairway stiff shaft.
I found the 3 wood shaft great, very stable but not hard to hit; driver shaft is fine.
I don’t like shaft with high bend point.
Average swing speed with an iron six is 80 mph; average driver distance is 250 yards (carry).
In your opinion I should choose the regular or the stiff version of the Aldila Voodoo mounted on your driver?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Francesco
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-03-09 14:28:56
Francesco-
We always recommend going to a Cobra fitter to find the right shaft for you. There are too many variables to fit a shaft online – it is always best to see ball flight and discuss the feel of the shaft with a fitter to get a final recommendation. But if you have found a shaft that you like already, in general you’ll probably like how that shaft performs in other clubs. You may find this link helpful when comparing shafts: http://www.cobragolf.com/drivers/shafts/default.asp.
Kevin wrote on 2009-12-16 07:12:50
Will Cobra be bringing out ZL fairway woods?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-12-16 11:50:52
Sorry – there are no plans to produce any ZL fairway metals.
dario wrote on 2009-12-15 11:06:07
How does ZL stands with forgiveness in comparison with 4LV and S9? I am a high handicaper and I still need all forgiveness I can get from a driver, but I like the look of ZL a lot. What shaft would you recommend for a slower swing speed? Thx!
Wesley Oosthuizen wrote on 2009-12-15 16:23:55
I Bought one on Monday and absolutley love it. Perfect for all handicaps. For a slower swing golfer id recommend just a Regular flex shaft. With the ZL Driver you can change the shaft to suit your golf.
EDDIE SMITH wrote on 2009-12-16 05:40:24
What is your average swing speed?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-12-15 11:54:56
The ZL should be quite comparable to the S9-1 and L4V as far as forgiveness. However, it is slightly smaller than both, at 450 cc’s. We offer many different shafts available in the ZL driver that fit slower swing speeds. Try to keep it lighter weight, 50-60 grams, to increase swing speed. You can see the shaft list here:
http://www.cobragolf.com/drivers/shafts/default.asp?Filter=49
Steve wrote on 2010-01-29 10:27:55
You stated here that the driver head is 450cc, however on the Driver specifications page it says 460cc.
Which is correct?
Karl wrote on 2009-12-14 06:01:14
Hi,
I just got your driver very nice. I got a new shaft to match my swing a bit better, as a starting point can you please tell me what the factory set up would be for the Zl 9.5 with a Fujikura Rombax 7Z08 stiff, shaft length, swing weight and your screw weight.
Thank you.
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-12-15 11:51:25
The factory set up for the ZL with a Fujikura Rombax 7Z08, stiff flex, will be: 46″ length, D6 swingweight, and a 2 gram weight in the back.
Duc wrote on 2009-12-13 13:42:34
I’m just wondering if the stock shaft is really for me. I am 171cm tall , handicap 3 and my average driving distance is 250m (with my tm burner driver). 46” is certainly not something i’m familiar with. What shaft option would you recommend or should i stick with the standard voodoo shaft ? ALso as i understand zl is designed to produce high ball flight and high spin. Should i expect shorter driving distance since my burner was to produce low flight low spin ? Thanks
Cobra Golf wrote on 2010-02-23 15:07:38
Duc,
It is not possible for us to recommend a shaft (or any club for that matter) without seeing your swing – everyone’s swing and specs are different and therefor recommending a shaft is just not feasible. Your best bet is to go to a retailer and demo some shafts, or better yet get professionally fit. That is the only true way to know that you are getting the correct equipment for your game.
As for the ZL being “high spin”, that is not really correct. To put the ZL in context, the L4V created a fair amount of spin. Our next multi-material driver – the L5V – had much less spin. The ZL falls somewhere between the two when comparing a stock setup of the three clubs. And as yo may know, spin can be greatly affected by the type of shaft you have shaft, the club face angle, someone’s swing style, and other factors.
If anything, an adjustable ZL should go farther than a non-adjustable Burner for the simple reason that the ZL can be tailored to your swing. Its multi-material composition allows us to make a very forgiving driver while the adjustable flight can compensate for small (or even large) flaws in your swing. This makes for better ball flight and longer distances on your drives.
Given your question about whether to keep the stock shaft, as well as your questions about spin, we recommend you demo the ZL against the Burner. We’re very confident the best choice will be obvious to you.
Duc wrote on 2009-12-13 13:39:24
I’m just wondering if the stock shaft is really for me. I am 171cm tall , handicap 3 and my average driving distance is 250m (with my tm burner driver). 46” is certainly not something i’m familiar with. What shaft option would you recommend or should i stick with the standard voodoo shaft ? Thanks
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-12-15 11:41:47
Due to custom club fitting being such an intricate process, it is difficult to make recommendations without being able to see your swing or ball flight. Our best recommendation would be to visit your nearest authorized Cobra fitting account to get fit for Cobra clubs in order to determine the best model, shaft, length and lie specifications for your swing.
To locate an authorized Cobra fitting account in your area where you can schedule an appointment to get fit for new clubs, please refer to the Dealer Locator here:
http://www.cobragolf.com/locator.aspx
When using the Dealer Locator, enter your zip code, select a distance from 10-100 miles and then check the box ‘Custom Fitting’ before starting your search. This will create a list of authorized Cobra fitting accounts with their address, distance from your location along with contact information.
Jay wrote on 2009-12-13 05:24:43
I hit the ZL and love the look and sound, but the stock Voodoo didn’t feel right for me. I currently play the Speed Pro D X/9.5 with Aldila VS Proto ByYou 65-S. Can you recommend a comparable shaft I could order with the ZL? My driver swing speed is 107. Thanks.
Matt Raines wrote on 2009-12-12 15:37:45
Hi
I was on golfsmith’s web sit and the have a custom order section so I decided to I created a set with the cobra zl.the reason I did this was to find out all the saft options. when picking safts for the zl it said that if I wanted to put the stock shaft of the s9-1 pro(cobra’s matrix ozik xcon 6) that there would be no upcharge is this true?
Thanks Matt
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-12-15 10:09:01
Yes, this is correct.
Jay wrote on 2009-12-12 10:58:27
I play the speed pro D X/9.5, with Aldila VS Proto ByYou 65-S, and want to get as close as possible to these specs with the ZL. Any recommendations? Thanks,
Jay
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-12-15 10:05:54
Jay,
Although we don’t carry the VS Proto 65-S anymore, we do carry the VS Proto 70 and VS Proto 80. We also carry the Aldila NV 65, which is similar to your shaft with just a slightly different torque.
The stock VS Proto was 65 grams, and had a mid/high kick point. You can take a look at our entire list of custom shafts available for the ZL here and find ones with a similar specs, though we recommend consulting your nearest Cobra dealer to be fit for the correct shaft for you.
http://www.cobragolf.com/drivers/shafts/default.asp?Filter=49
Note that most come with an upcharge. It should be noted that the stock Voodoo shaft is optimized for the ZL head so if you get the chance, you may want to demo the 9.5 ZL stock stiff.
leo wrote on 2009-12-09 16:58:31
Hi…i still use my F speed, 10.5…a couple months ago i bought a S9 1 F 10.5…but can´t hit it as i do with my Fspeed…do you think the ZL will be the right change for me…
thanks…
leo.
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-12-10 11:36:07
Leo,
Curious – did you get fit for your S9 1 F? As you probably know, with any club, if it is not right for your swing, it will not give optimal results.
With that said, we regard the ZL as the best driver we have ever made and it very well may work for you. The best thing you can do is to demo it (bring your F Speed and S9-1 for comparison). Even better, get a professional fitting if you can. That will ensure you are getting the very best driver for your game.
sandy wrote on 2009-12-07 11:52:45
hi, can i order the zl with 2 different shafts which i then can exchange by myself, incl weights? in europe?
kind regards
sandy
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-12-07 11:58:15
Absolutely. You can order both separate shafts and weight kits from your local Cobra dealer. The weights can be switched using the torque wrench that is included with your ZL driver
mike aldredge wrote on 2009-12-01 17:55:00
is the aldila voodoo shaft on th zl driver the same as the factory aldila voodoo rvs6 or rvs7 shaft?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-12-03 08:21:12
Mike,
While all three shafts share the same Aldila technology, of the two shafts you mentioned, the ZL stock voodoo shaft is most like the RSV6. That said, there are a few minor differences. The stock ZL shaft is slightly softer and has a higher torque than the RSV6 to promote a slightly higher launch and higher spin. This was done to compliment the characteristics of the ZL driver head, but also to produce a shaft that appeals to the broadest number of golfers. As you may know, the XVS6 is played on Tour, so we had to make a few modifications to the stock shaft so that it was playable for as many people as possible.
Carl Ray wrote on 2010-01-19 08:37:18
On 12-03-2009 you wrote “The stock ZL shaft is slightly softer and has a higher torque than the RSV6 to promote a slightly higher launch and higher spin.” A spin rate that is too high has been my problem with my Cobra 414 driver. I am hoping to get the ZL with a shaft that will promote a high launch but with a lower spin rate. Can you make any recommendations on a shaft that would produce that characteristics?
Thanks. Love Cobra drivers.
Dennis O’Malley wrote on 2009-11-30 16:15:08
Regarding the swing weight kit, is there a weight in the kit heavy enough to off-set shortening the shaft from 46″ to 44.5″?
Thanks.
Dennis
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-11-30 16:56:29
Hi Dennis,
Although you are welcome to cut the shaft down further, our custom department will not cut the ZL shaft to less than 45″. Just for your own information, the swingweight of a 44.5″ [stock] shaft with our 6g weight screw is C6, and with the 10g weight screw (our heaviest) the swingweight will be C8. At 45″ our stock ZL VooDoo shaft will swingweight to C9 with a 6g weight and D1 with a 10g weight.
Please note that since our stock Aldila Voodoo shaft is slightly counter-balanced, ANY aftermarket shaft we offer will result in swingweights that are heavier (+2-5 swingweight points more).
Mark wrote on 2009-11-30 09:35:57
Do you offer the voodoo shafts in a x flex or xx flex. for the new ZL driver?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-11-30 09:38:33
We do offer an X flex through our custom department (which does not require an upcharge) but we do not offer an XX flex.
KiiNG StEvE wrote on 2009-11-29 09:30:33
Cobra ZL Driver is a really good driver for me.
love the soft feel off the face.
i get more distance and straighter hits with zl then my r9.
soon as i get $ its going in my bag!!!
Carlos wrote on 2009-11-25 21:16:00
I just tried a lot of diffrent drivers at Edwin Watts Orlado, I was sold on another brand but after hitting on their computer-video cage, they brought me the ZL model and by far I was hitting better than with any other driver. I am trying to conform to USPGA rules and I read above this driver does.
Myconcern is on the weight. My coach said, he does not want me to buy driver with weights as this might promote a bad habit of counting with the weights to do my job.
Does the weight system conform to USPG rules?
Will I always depend on the weights if I get used to it?
Opening the face is like the Tour drivers?
Too many questions, my apologies. It will be my driver for a long time, I just want the best, for a long time. Happy Holidays
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-11-30 09:29:23
Hi Carlos,
The Cobra ZL Driver Conforms to all USGA and R&A rules, so no need to worry about that.
As for the weight screw, it is purely to maintain the proper swing weight of the club. If you were to purchase the driver with a custom shaft that was perhaps lighter or heavier than our stock shaft, we would install the correct weight screw to maintain the D4 swing weight. Once the proper swing weight is achieved, you should have no reason to change it. The weight screw has virtually no effect on ball flight (nor is it meant to) so “depending on it” should not be a concern.
And finally, yes, the ZL adjustability is the same as the drivers on Tour. For example, Geoff Ogilvy plays a ZL at the “O” (Open) setting so he never hits a ball left. The adjustment mechanism on his driver is the same as the one you would purchase in the store.
Good luck and let us know where you end up.
Brett wrote on 2009-11-25 09:45:18
I want to upgrade the shaft in my new zl driver. if I spend the extra money to upgrade but decide to change drivers down the road, will i be able to take the upgraded shaft out of my cobra and put into another driver? i am curious due to the hozel adapter put on the shafts. if i am able to do this will it change the specs and length of my upgraded shaft? i just dont want to spend the extra money if the shaft can only be used for the one driver. Thanks for your help.
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-11-25 10:28:29
Brett,
A good question. Currently, we are getting a lot of positive feedback from our AFT system (Adjustable Flight Technology). Obviously being able to change the face angle is a big benefit, as is the ability to swap out different shafts. And therefore there is a chance our AFT technology will be around for generations of drivers to come.
With that said, we are always trying to figure out ways to improve our clubs. And though the current AFT is performing very well, our R&D team works hard to find performance improvements wherever it can. So although the current hosel sleeve MAY be used in future generations of clubs, there is a chance it will not. (As an example, the L5V adjustable hosel came with two settings, where the ZL now comes with three, and shafts from one are not compatible with the other.)
The bottom line is that although we can not guarantee that a ZL shaft will fit future models, it is possible. It should also be said that although Cobra does not offer this service, a professional club fitter should be able to remove the ZL hosel sleeve in the future if you want to use the shaft with a different driver. Hope that helps.
Denis wrote on 2009-11-23 14:25:51
Hi, how does the ZL Aldila Voodoo stiff compare to the S9-1F Aldila DVS-HL stiff? Which one would you recommend for club head speed of 95mph?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-11-23 14:28:24
The Aldila VooDoo Stiff is slightly heavier (62g). The kick points and torques are identical. Either shaft would fit a 95 MPH swing speed, but we always recommend seeing an authorized Cobra account that can take a look at your swing and make a recommendation.
Karl Treffinger wrote on 2009-11-23 09:06:59
A couple questions I couldn’t find answers to on your website.
1. When the face angle is changed, what happens to the loft?
2. Are shafts spined? If so, what happens when shaft is rotated to change face angle?
3. Will my local shop be able to change swing weights?
Thanks
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-11-23 10:20:31
Hi Karl,
1. Yes, when the face angle is changed, the loft is affected. When the face is changed to a more closed setting, the dynamic loft of the club is increased and when the face is changed to a more open setting, the dynamic loft is reduced. For example, a 9.5º ZL in the “C” AFT (Adjustable Flight Technology) position is closer to 10 degrees, while the same 9.5 in the “O” AFT position is closer to 9 degrees.
2. In our independent tests, spined, or “pured”, shafts were not shown to exhibit performance advantage or befit that is commensurate with the added cost of the process, and therefore we do not sell them on our clubs.
3. You are now able to order a swing weight kit from your local Cobra retailer. With the kit, you will be able to change weights on your own, using the torque wrench that was provided with your ZL for changing AFT positions.
eddy yap wrote on 2009-11-23 00:24:20
Hi cobra team,
I am from Malaysia. I am currently using the S9.1 Fspeed driver. I am planning to upgrade it to the new ZL after testing it. But comments from friends that it is non-conforming need me to clarify with Cobra. I need to know whether the new ZL is a conforming driver or not. I play frequently in competition back home. Thanks guys!
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-11-23 14:36:51
The Cobra ZL Driver Conforms to all USGA and R&A rules.
Jeff wrote on 2009-11-21 19:36:23
Is the stock voodoo in the zl the same as the Titleist 909 Voodoo?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-11-23 14:32:13
Jeff,
It is not. It is built off of the same platform as the aftermarket Aldila VooDoo, but with specs made specifically for Cobra. The weight is 62 grams, with a torque of 4.5º and a mid kick point, whereas the Titleist VooDoo is 72 grams, with a mid/high kick point and a 3.3º torque rating.
Marek wrote on 2009-11-19 11:38:12
Hi Cobra,
I wanna thank all of you gyus for making the new ZL driver. I’ve just tried mine (9.5° with aldila voodoo stiff shaft, set to close) on driving range and I can say without any doubts, that it is the best driver I’ve ever played. Sound, feel, look, performance – everything is simply awesome. I was very off balanced with my old driver but with the new ZL driver I’ve got everything that I ever wanted – very long accurate shots with little draw. Again thank you very much,
Mark from Czech Republic
Tomas Fibich wrote on 2009-11-20 03:14:29
where did u try it? in the US or czech republic?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-11-19 11:58:49
Děkuji pěkně Mark for your kind words. We passed your note along to the two principal designers of the ZL and they greatly appreciated it.
Tomas Fibich wrote on 2009-11-19 01:10:25
Hi!
I`m using the old Cobra X-Speed (think 2006) on the speed tuned aldila stiff high kick shaft. 9,5 deg. loft. Since I bought the driver about 3 years ago I can`t recall the exact specs. I tried both the S 9-1 Pro D and S 9,5 deg on aldila voodoo stiff shaft but it seemed to be very flexible at the tip of the shaft. Unfortunately for me, as a EU citizen, I won`t be available to try the ZL until march or sth. I was thinking of the new ZL 9,5 stiff. what a bout the swing weight difference between my old driver and the ZL.
Thanks for help
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-11-23 08:49:58
Hi Thomas,
The swing weights between your old X Speed driver and the Cobra ZL are going to be very similar (ZL = D4, X Speed = D4-D3). We try to keep our swing weights fairly similar between models, as this relates to how the club feels in your hands (weight wise).
ihaia raki wrote on 2009-11-11 22:21:06
just purchase set cobra, zl driver irons s2 / 3 to sw, lob wedge, s9-1 3wood
gt stand bag. should get them next week, can’t wait, will give feedback once try them out.
Chris wrote on 2009-11-11 08:51:05
as a player who draws the ball, i certainly like the ability to open the face at address, but my concern is with the heel weight. with the toe being lighter this in itself will promote draw, making the open face worthless. is there more than one weight on the club or do you recommend the lowest gram weight possible for players looking to “erase” the hook?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-11-11 17:47:27
Chris,
Although heel weight will promote draw bias ball flight, its effects are minimal when compared to face angle. This is especially true with the ZL. In fact, the weight screw in the ZL was designed solely for the purpose of adjusting swing weight and has little effect on ball flight. As an example, Geoff Ogilvy wants his driver to be anti-left. He plays a 9.5º ZL in the Open position which helps eliminate draw bias ball flight. If you are customizing your driver with an aftermarket shaft there is a good chance that the 2g weight would be used for any OEM shafts weighing more than 65g. If you want the driver built very short (sub 45″) that would be the only scenario where the 10g screw would be used.
Thanks for the question,
-Ben Schomin
Director, Cobra Custom Fitting
Joe Poynter wrote on 2009-11-05 14:29:06
Is it possible to custom order a shaft for the ZL where the shaft logo is on the bottom side at address in a neutral set-up?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-11-05 15:32:14
No problem Joe. The driver will need to be built through our custom department but there is no charge for a change like that. Just go to any Cobra retailer and be sure to indicate exactly where you want to shaft graphics when you put the order in.
Daniel wrote on 2009-10-24 08:57:50
How does the ZL driver compare to L5V?
Is the face size the same? Height? Width?
Your adds still list the L5V as the largest face in golf.
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-10-29 16:18:05
The L5V was designed with one thing in mind: push the limits of 5 variables (COR, MOI, size, volume and adjustability) and as such, it still maintains the largest face in golf. Although an outstanding driver, maximizing those variables did create several intricacies – most notably, the driver’s sound.
When we began to design the ZL, we backed away and thought rather than chasing limits, how can we create the finest driver we have ever made? Cobra engineers determined that to create the ZL’s phenomenal sound characteristics, launch conditions and forgiveness, its length, width and height needed to be modified. Specifically, when compared to the L5V, the ZL is about 4mm smaller in length and width and ~0.11mm shorter. So although the smaller dimensions create a slightly smaller face than the L5V (about ~4cm²), the head volume is maintained by the removal of the dimples, creating a more traditional curvature of the crown.
jade wrote on 2009-10-21 15:15:47
so…once we buy the driver will it be possible to swap the adapter onto a different shaft?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-10-21 15:43:05
The hosel tube adapter is installed here by trained technicians and we do not recommend trying to remove the hosel from the shaft after purchase. However, if you are interested in getting a different shaft (or multiple shafts) for your ZL, you can purchase them through any Cobra retailer. We take the new shaft, install a new grip and the hosel sleeve, and send it back to you with the appropriate swing weight screw (based on the shaft you purchased and the length). You can then easily swap different shafts while keeping the same driver head.
Richard wrote on 2009-10-17 16:55:47
Hello Cobra,
Will the adjustable hosel mechanism be available for purchase? If so, where and when can it be purchased?
Thanks,
Richard
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-10-19 16:06:56
Richard,
Cobra does not sell individual components such as the ZL hosel mechanism. However, the adjustable hosel can be added to a large variety of shafts. This can be done through our custom department and would be ordered through your local Cobra retailer or Pro shop.
Richard wrote on 2009-10-22 13:04:16
Cobra,
I am a soldier stationed overseas so there is no local Cobra retailer for me. Is there a way to do that online?
Thanks,
Richard
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-10-22 15:24:13
Good question Richard. Any golf retailer on the web that sells Cobra equipment will be able to order that for you. But since it technically is a custom order, you will need to email or call a sales representative from that company and put the order in “manually”. If you have any more problems or questions about the process, don’t hesitate to contact Cobra Customer Care directly. But note that they can not put the order in for you – it must be done with a Cobra retailer. 800-833-3450
Brian wrote on 2009-09-27 14:25:03
Hi,
I use the F-Speed models with the old green Aldia NV stiff shaft. I currently own the S9-1 demo model with the L5V shaft setup. I love the club but want a 8.5 degree loft. The current S9-1 F speed model doesn’t come with that loft, with this new driver?
Also, what will the stock shaft be on the new ZL driver and how does it compare to the Aldila NV 65 gram stiff shaft?
Thanks. I love cobra, I own Cobra drivers, fairways, hybrids and irons. You guys are the best.
Brian
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-09-29 16:09:06
The Cobra ZL driver will be offered in 8.5* all the way up to 11.5* in one degree increments. The stock shaft on the Cobra ZL driver is a made-for-Cobra Aldila Voodoo shaft. It is a 62 gram shaft with a mid kick point. The characteristics of the Aldila Voodoo shaft for Cobra should play close to the stock Aldila NV 65 made-for-Cobra. The ball flight and feel of the two shafts are kept close to the same player type and ball flight characteristic that fits most golfers.
Jonathan B wrote on 2009-10-06 07:52:50
Will the Voodoo shaft for the Cobra Zero Limit be available in x-stiff? Will the made for Cobra shaft incorporate the S-core technology gound in the OEM shaft? Could you list the specifications for that shaft? Thanks, Jonathan
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-10-07 13:14:19
The Voodoo shaft will be available for the ZL, though the extra stiff is technically a custom offering (though no more expensive than a stock shaft). And yes, the shaft will incorporate the S-core technology. A few specs:
Kick Point: mid/high
Torque: mid
Weight: 59-62 (depending on flex)
Jonathan B wrote on 2009-10-08 05:39:30
To be clear the “made for Cobra Voodoo” will be made available in x-stiff as a custom offering, meaning this is a special order and would not be made available by my local retailer on the shelves. Do you have the torque ratings for each flex? Are the shaft weights mentioned the raw weights before being cut? I currently play the L5V 9.5 with a Diamana BB 63 in stiff and am trying to find a good match for the Zero Limit. Thanks for the info.
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-10-09 15:43:46
Yes, it would be a custom offering, which could be easily ordered through your local retailer. The Diamana Blue 63 S is closer spec wise to the ZL Voodoo S-Flex than the ZL Voodoo X-Flex. The weight and stiffness of the Voodoo S-flex and the Diamana 63 S are very similar, with the X-Flex being a full flex stiffer and a few grams heavier. The biggest difference between the two shafts is the torque: the ZL Voodoo S and X flex shafts have a torque of 4.5 degrees and the Diamana Blue 63 has a torque of 3.6 degrees.
Craig wrote on 2009-09-25 09:22:47
Since I am currently playing the LD5000 F-Speed at 9 degree….should I look into an 8.5 degree ZL?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-09-29 15:13:44
Being a mid-high launch driver, and 8.5* ZL may be a good place to start. But as we tell everyone, there is really no way to know for sure without trying one out first.
You can find a fitter here: http://www.cobragolf.com/locator.aspx . Just be sure to select the “Custom Fitting” check box when you do your search.
Craig wrote on 2009-09-24 09:56:00
Cobra,
Currently am using the “explosion” sounding 07 LD 5000 series F-Speed driver. I absolutely love this driver as it has transformed my driving game from hitting 215 to 240-260 every drive.
I have the 9.0 degree driver, and also believe the driver has a 2 degree close on the face that came standard with it. Do you know how the ZL will compare to the above driver since it only can go to 1 degree closed. How much difference will the 9.5 or 8.5 compared to the 9 degree. Or is the ZL not the answer, and should I wait for the S2?
Thanks,
Craig
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-09-29 15:11:11
The Cobra ZL driver is a much different than the Speed line. It merges a multi-material body and adjustability to create a driver that best suites your game. With the face only being shut by 1*, it may not be as forgiving to square the face up, but we definitely recommend trying the ZL before ruling it out. The loft on the Cobra ZL should play close to the LD, as they are both designed with a mid-high launch, but again, trying the ZL will let you know what loft fits you the best.
Jeff wrote on 2009-09-21 18:13:10
Hey Cobra!
I currently hit the the L4V 9.5 deg and it has done wonders for improving my driving accuracy. Now I want more distance. Will the new ZL be the answer? I almost ponied up for the S9-1 with the price drop but would rather spend the extra $100 on the latest when it’s available (is the estimated price $299?). Also, are there going to be fairway woods too?
I appreciate your time… COBRA rocks!
J
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-09-22 11:30:37
Jeff,
Given that the L4V is a multi-material driver, the ZL (also a multi-material driver) seems like a good fit. But we can’t stress the importance of getting professionally fit. Paying the extra money for one driver or another may be a waste if the driver is not right for your swing and ball launch type.
The MSRP for the ZL is $425, but you should check with your local retailer, as prices will vary quite a bit. As for distance, JB Holmes is currently #8 in driving distance on the PGA Tour and he has the ZL in the bag. So it has definitely been shown to perform.
You can find a fitter here: http://www.cobragolf.com/locator.aspx . Just be sure to select the “Custom Fitting” check box when you do your search.
Michael wrote on 2009-09-14 12:56:15
How compares the ZL driverhead in terms aof launch angle and spin to the L5V ?
thanks in advance
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-09-16 09:07:18
Through our testing, we have found that the Cobra ZL driver launches the ball higher than the Cobra L5V (around 1* to 1.5*) and spins the ball at a slightly higher rate as well (~400-500 rpm more).
jade wrote on 2009-10-16 11:01:07
So, the ZL will be a high launch/ high spin driver? Basically geared toward the masses then? How much more will the ZL spin vs. the S9-1 all else being equal? As for high swing speed players, this is probably not the optimal driver then?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-10-16 15:54:41
When comparing identical lofts, the ZL will launch higher than S9-1 F and S9-1 Pro, spin less than S9-1 F, and spin more than S9-1 Pro.
As to whether it can accommodate high swing speed players, one needs not look much further than JB Holmes and Geoff Ogilvy, who are both playing the ZL. JB is in an 8.5* and has a ball speed of 185+ and an average driving distance of 303 yards. Geoff is in a 9.5* and has a ball speed of 175+ and an average driving distance of 291. Both drivers are the exact model that will be available on November 1 to the public.
Rick Barnes wrote on 2009-09-13 13:21:07
I’m a big fan of Cobra products, if you need me to help with testing the ZL please don’t hesitate send the invite. I’m currently hitting an LD which I love !! however I can’t wait to hit the ZL !!!
(RB).
John Sydney Australia wrote on 2009-09-12 12:44:16
Why did Cobra decide not to offer a 12 Degree model but opted for the 11.5 deg instead? I know its only half a degree, but half a degree in a driver can be a big difference. I was disappointed to see Cobra not offering a 12 deg model. The reason?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-09-16 09:33:15
The ZL was designed to be a high-launching driver. And in fact, for most players, 11.5* model will provide the same amount of loft as a traditional 12*-13* driver.
If you typically play a 12* driver, we recommend you demo the ZL 11.5*. We think you will be pleasantly surprised.
George Ambrose wrote on 2009-09-05 20:00:48
Is the new ZL look more like a Shallow head or Deep faced? Is it Black carbon model like the S9-1 pro model?
Thanks in advance
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-09-08 09:44:12
The ZL is a mix in between the Shallow and Deep in the Cobra S9-1 Pro Series, but would lean more towards the Shallow due to the face height. The ZL is a multi-material driver combining composite and titanium materials.
Curt wrote on 2009-09-01 16:35:51
I see that one of the responses says right handed only. Will there be left handed models in the future?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-09-04 08:27:48
The ZL will launch on 11/1 with 4 right-handed models and 2 left-handed models.
RH: 8.5*, 9.5*, 10.5*, 11.5*
LH: 9.5*, 10.5*
Eat sometakos wrote on 2009-08-31 15:17:20
hey ive been your drivers for about four years now im a juinor golfer im just wondering when we should be seeing them in stores and also when is the S2 driver coming out cant wait to try them out
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-08-31 15:25:33
The ZL driver is scheduled to ship in the US on November 1. You will be able to demo it at that time. As for the S2 driver, we will be sharing more information about that later in the fall.
jason wrote on 2009-08-29 02:35:01
got speed ld 2008 10.5 stiff driver now had the 2007 which was too noisy
had the ss before they were banned that was the best driver you ever made
is this as good or better ????
whats the release date for the uk and will it have a 3 wood to match it?????
Josh Wilson wrote on 2009-08-29 00:10:56
I tryed the S9-1 driver and found it very head heavy and shaft light, it kinda dissapointed me because I previously used a cobra driver and was expecting more. Is the ZL any different? Head heavy and shaft light?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-08-31 12:32:48
You are correct in saying that the stock shaft of the Cobra S9-1 driver is lightweight. There are two reasons for this: (1) the stock length of the Cobra S9-1 Drivers are 1/2″ longer than we have normally built them and (2) everyone is looking for more distance these days. One way to do that is to improve the head both in M.O.I. and C.O.R. (which we have maxed out). The second thing to increase distance is to increase swing speed and the lighter the shaft, the faster the swing speed. The same principle applies to the Cobra ZL driver. It comes stock with a 62 gram, made-for-Cobra Aldila Voodoo. The standard length of the Cobra ZL is 46″. The club still specs out at a D4 swingweight. If you are uncomfortable with this light of a shaft, Cobra offers many custom shaft options. Just visit http://www.cobragolf.com and click under ‘Shaft Options’ in the Driver section.
Troy Strodtman wrote on 2009-08-28 16:44:34
I’m hitting the cobra s91 pro s 9.5.I love this driver will the new ZL compare to the sound and distance I get with mine.Please tell me it doesn’t have that awful sound the speed drivers have.I also hit the s9 irons how do the new irons compare?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-08-31 12:27:42
The New ZL is the newest in Cobra Golf technology with its AFT (Adjustable Flight Technology) and head shape. We have completely dropped the dimples in the crown of the head to maximize the best sounding acoustics. The Cobra ZL will sound the same, if not better than the Cobra S9-1 Pro series drivers, but the ultimate test is to try the product for yourself and see. The launch on the Cobra ZL is the beginning of November.
Scott wrote on 2009-10-15 18:46:54
The speed series drivers only sound bad if you can’t hit the sweet spot or can’t swing the club fast enough. In fact, it is a good training aid to help you find the center of the club. When I hit my speed series and that gunshot goes off, I don’t mind that others stop and look at my ball going 300+ down the fairway. I guess to each his own. I hope the new driver doesn’t sound to muffled.
Gary Taylor wrote on 2009-08-28 08:28:48
I have totally LOVED all of my Cobra clubs. Will there be a draw bias or offset in the new ZL? I am a senior golfer and still rely on my offset.
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-08-28 09:38:23
There will be an option for ‘Draw Bias’ in the Cobra ZL through our Adjustable Flight Technology (AFT). But there will be no offset heads in the ZL, only straight neck.
Al wrote on 2009-08-27 17:35:04
I am still using the speed ld 12 degree and like it. What will the benifits be of the ZL? Will it be available in 11 or 12 degree??
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-08-28 09:16:27
The ZL is loaded with great features that build on the technology of the LD series. With advanced multi-material construction and Adjustable Flight Technology (AFT), the Cobra ZL represents the next generation in Cobra drivers. A carbon fiber crown and sole, titanium face and body, along with a swingweight screw provide optimal center of gravity and MOI. Also, three face angle settings (open, neutral, and closed) allow you to find one setting that optimizes ball flight for increased distance and accuracy. The Cobra ZL driver is available in 8.5*(RH only), 9.5*, 10.5*, and 11.5*(RH only).
Ted Milek wrote on 2009-08-27 15:28:38
I love my L5V driver. will the shaft be compatible with ZL head?
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-08-27 15:39:05
Unfortunately, the adjustable hosel mechanism of the L5V has two settings, where the ZL will have three. Therefore, you would not be able to just interchange the heads. However, you could certainly have the shaft of your L5V removed from the adjustable hosel mechanism and inserted into the hosel mechanism of the ZL. It would take a little work but is certainly possible.
Shane Shelby wrote on 2009-08-27 09:40:22
Looks liek a new Dual-Weighting system for the ZL? If so, I like it!!!
Kurtis Paine wrote on 2009-08-27 07:17:43
That sure looks sweet! I’d better get a demo in the mail soon!! LOL
Sandeep wrote on 2009-08-26 22:14:16
A tear shaped head. Looks like a Titleist 907
Mike wrote on 2009-08-26 18:18:07
I can’t wait for this to come out. Will be first in line to try it out
William Bruno wrote on 2009-08-26 17:58:20
will they make the ZL driver for ladies? When will it be out to Demo it? Thanks
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-08-27 07:41:07
Although there will not be a stock ZL driver specifically for women, there will be shaft and grip customization available to accommodate a wide range of players, both male and female.
jim strakes wrote on 2009-08-26 17:10:02
i am a super senior golfer and bought your driver 4 yrs. ago. since then i have been using
a taylor 13 degree driver w/ 50 gram shaft.
question will your new driver be comparable to the burner or better?
Jim
mesa, az.
Cobra Golf wrote on 2009-08-27 15:14:29
Jim,
Although the ZL represents the best driver Cobra has ever produced, we recommend you take your current driver to a fitter and test it on a launch monitor against the Cobra ZL – the results will show the best driver for your game. As an aside, both JB Holmes and Geoff Ogilvy have been testing the ZL and it’s possible we will see them hitting it in a tournament shortly.
Steve Tucker wrote on 2009-08-26 17:03:44
I use and sell your product at Dick’s Sporting Goods in Omaha can’t wait to sell the new ZL!!